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Re: Trouble using rechargable batteries

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jguerdat
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Just installed the rechargeable (gray, not purple) in one camera. Both were at 1.2.2222 firmware level but both are now at 1.1.2074. The rechargeable batteries are holding up so far with full charge after >2 hours. I wasn't watching to see whether the camera upgraded but both would have been done in spite of only one having been opened for batteries. Perhaps they changed after I had checked a day or two ago. In any event all seems well for the moment. Details as they develop...

jguerdat
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Nearly 24 hours later and batteries still show full. Base station is on 1.3.2261 with no problems. So far, so good.

Alpo
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Interesting to hear.  I wonder why people are getting downgraded instead of upgraded.  I have two of three cameras back on non-rechargeables and are functioning normally, after being completely non-functional on the rechargeables.  The third is still limping along with one red bar even after a few motion detection events (certainly not enough to have exhausted two red bars in a few short days.)  Waiting for it to die before restoring original batteries.

jguerdat
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I wonder if you have some bad batteries? Maybe some measuring as well as mixing and matching would be in order. I haven't installed the second set yet, was going to use them as replacements when the first set needed recharging. I'm using the 16340 cells TomMac suggested - are yours something different?

Alpo
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These are brand new Tenergy batteries: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EYHO9G/  It is entirely possible they could be defective.  Unfortunately, I don't have other types of devices in which I can test.  Quite bad luck if that is the case.

Alpo
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It's not the batteries.  After the last post, I realized I could stack these rechargeables into my flashlight, instead of using an 18650 battery.  Got about 48 min of runtime (before the low battery warning indicator appeared) out of both pairs that I had pulled from a camera.  Using the medium setting at I would guess about 300 lumens, that is a lot of light and heat generated.  Given the mAh rating of these, it seems proportional to what I've experienced with the longer runtime of the 18650s (750 vs. 3600 mAh).  So there is no way I could have drained these in a day or two from usage in the cameras.  So it is back to the firmware changes on either the base station or cameras.

TomMac
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do you mean 16340s which are 123 size...

the 18650 are a different size

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Alpo
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Hi TomMac, I do mean 18650--looking at the battery right now.  End to end, the light accepts 1-18650 or 2-CR123s.  

TomMac
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Alpo wrote:

Hi TomMac, I do mean 18650--looking at the battery right now.  End to end, the light accepts 1-18650 or 2-CR123s.  


ok... thought you meant in the camera ( not flashlight )

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jguerdat
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A few days later...

 

Batteries are holding up well so far.  Installed the second set in the other camera. Both are showing full charge after positioning and several lengthy video recordings. V1.1.2074 firmware seems to be fine.

jguerdat
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Welp, first set of rechargeables died after just under 7 days. Some more adjustments needed...

RobertRosal
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4vrnvr wrote:

Can't help you with the rechargable problem, but my initial batteries have been in my cameras 6 weeks and are still showing a full charge. The battery life will depend on how much use the camera is getting. Mine on average is between 5 to 10 minutes a day.

 

Here is a great deal on batteries from surefire.

 

http://www.surefire.com/batteries/12-pack-batteries.html

 

Greg


Hi Greg, I'm still on the fence on getting rechargeables and asking all who have them, how are they holding up.  So now you should have some mileage on those Surefire and I'd like to ask, how are they holding up?

 

-Robert

-Robert
jguerdat
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Mine have been in since Easter. One camera is relatively light use and have 84 minutes of video. The heavy use camera has 330 minutes of video, equivalent to about 82 days of Arlo-speced useage of 4 minutes a day. The former is set for 30 seconds of recording with all 3 bars of battery shown while the latter is set for 60 seconds and has 2 bars showing. Both are set on Optimized. 

TomMac
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Good to hear jguerdat...

 

I currently on day 36, with 1 bar down, going to let them run out till email messg says low... normal spec use on camera. ( best video, btw )

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RobertRosal
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Wow, those are great results so far from the both of you!

-Robert
Alpo
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Regarding my prior posts about the cameras becoming unavailable, that appears to no longer be the case with the base on firmware 1.3.2261 and the cameras at 1.2.2412.  Not sure what changed, but the batteries have been reportedly flatlined for some weeks now but the cameras are otherwise fully functional.

jguerdat
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My heavy usage camera just reported 15% left. Changing now although I wonder how much longer they'd last. 3 month's worth of normal usage is as good as I hoped even if actual usage is 3 weeks. Gotta get new neighbors.

Sallie
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Batteries go dead fast, anyone used those recharging machines.  I have one but it wont handle the CR123.  Does anyone have a charger that works for that size

RobertRosal
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Sallie wrote:

Batteries go dead fast, anyone used those recharging machines.  I have one but it wont handle the CR123.  Does anyone have a charger that works for that size


Hi Sallie,

 

Are you using the cameras more than the specified Arlo normal use of 4-5 minutes?

 

Are you on the Energizers?

 

-Robert

-Robert
jguerdat
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If you're using non-rechargeable batteries, DON'T TRY TO RECHARGE THEM! Don't want an explosion!

 

There are various threads here about recharegable batteries.  Try the Buying Options & Tips forum first.

larry366
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I have 12 tenergy batteries a bought on amazon and they do the same thing show that there not charged.
TomMac
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larry366 wrote:
I have 12 tenergy batteries a bought on amazon and they do the same thing show that there not charged.

read this thread;

 

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Buying-Options-Tips/RECHARGABLE-BATTERIES-of-LiFePO4-format-appear-...

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bg
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I have the same problem using Tenergy RCR123A 3.0V 900mAh Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries. I am lucky if I get 2 weeks of service when I replace the batteries.  It is very discouraging because I have 10 cameras and need to replace batteries constantly.  I was simply spending way too much money with the regular disposable batteries.  I suppose the only solution is to buy a different camera system.

RobertRosal
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So far all I have read, Tenergy's don't seem to play well with our Arlo's.  I would consider reading the thread on rechargeables to make an educated decision in regards to making your next purchase of batteries. 

-Robert
TomMac
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RobertRosal wrote:

So far all I have read, Tenergy's don't seem to play well with our Arlo's.  I would consider reading the thread on rechargeables to make an educated decision in regards to making your next purchase of batteries. 


I believe the battery algorithm was prob optimized for the 3.7v cells ( and the 3.2 oem )... voltage drop out may be another problem due to not enough draw capacity

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