Re: New Smart Plan Subscription Pricing 12/13/19
The recent change in the plan pricing has many of us throwing our hands up. It’s very “bait and switch”. I recommended Arlo over Nest and Ring because of the plan pricing. Now I recommend Eufy Cameras and tell people to avoid Arlo.
I have a two camera pro 2 bundle from arlo and upgraded rhe base station to the pro 3 version. It is a great oprtion to reduce costs. Now it also links to the video doorbell so that is retained to. Right now my setup is 3 arlo q cameras, 2 Pro 2 camera, the video doorbell, and a Pro 3. All seem to work well and all but the Arlo Q cameras write to the base station. The Pro 3 base station has a 500 GB drive attached to it. I had a 8gb drive attached and it seemed to give me about a month of recording.
You are right in that the Arlo Q's have a issue with some of the filters. I think i saw it was because they are mechanical and unfortunately are prone to failure. I have been lucky so far, but will just replace them with Pro 2's or 3's when they break. I am well out of my warranty period on all 3 at this point.
Yes you can have 3 accounts with 3 separate logins which is weak
Grant access gives you the ability to see all 15 cameras from the same account (with most of the administrative controls). So it's not that "weak".
you need a separate account for each 5 cameras.
BUT you can then use grant access to allow one of your accounts to access the cameras from all the other accounts. https://kb.arlo.com/000039122/How-do-I-add-friends-to-my-Arlo-account
In fact, you can set up each of the accounts with access to all the cameras in the other accounts.
If you got 3 VMB4540 base stations you could have them all on one account and have months of recording for free on one account and access it from anywhere. Not just 7 days
Yes. Pretty expensive work around though. I haven't seen a stand-alone VMB4540 for sale. Three VMB5000s would cost $450 USD on Amazon.
I did like the smart features of the premier plan but not going to pay raised pricing.
It's to bad a third party software developer couldnt come up with a competitive solution. It's not that people arent willing to pay for services but their new price structure and plans cost almost everyone a significant amount of more money.
If we were frustrated with the pricing update from 19 Dec ... the newest pricing update will really update many of us.
I have been operating an original Arlo for 4 or 5 years for a vacation home and an Arlo Pro for our main home. I am not rich and the storage plan (Dec 19) was no non starter for us. I 'decommissioned' the original Arlo and replaced it with a Blink XT2 package.
I wanted to provide some feed back on the Blink XT2 system. I would be interested in others experiences with other packages. I think its quite obvious that Arlo is in deep trouble and its time to bail.
Overall comments of the Blink XT2 system:
Set up and install:
The network base and set up was easier than my two Arlos. Love the smaller footprint of the 'base' station. I will cover the software later. The units were also very easy to set up but the camera units did appear to be slightly inferior to the Arlos. The arlos seem to hid better in plan sight. The mounting systems of the Arlo are superior as well. I was concerned that I was going to break the Blinks mounts.
I should point out that my Arlo system has survived two hurricanes with winds over 90 mph. I had one camera (original Arlo) get wet inside the battery compartment. After removing the bad CR123 batteries, letting the unit dry and cleaning the terminals ... it worked fine.
Video quality. I don't have the latest Arlos .. so to be fair I have the Arlo Pro which is rather old not but ... I found the Blinks to have a wider field of view but also tend to be distorted at the edges of the video.
Software: Blink's software is excellent. The camera software breaks the video image into a grid. One can individually 'mute' any of the grid 'squares'. This really reduces the number of false positive recordings.
Another strength is the response time from getting an alert to actually opening the software to view the activity. My Arlo's and software seem to take sometime to load up the image. Blink's software is .. on average .. faster ...
Overall, I truly loved my Arlo. They just keep bungling the cloud fees and their notifications are less than desirable. Did anyone get a notice that their Arlo were going to stop working in the middle of a pandemic and civil strife? No ... just one day I noticed all my notifications stopped. Maybe I missed the email but I feel like its was like Arlo was saying 'oh by the way ... the world is crumbling around us; we are changing our service .. sucks to be you'
Its a bit unfair but there are other video surveillance providers that offer limited but free storage. Blink has the backing of Amazon and Arlo is trying to go it alone. The problem is wireless home video surveillance has become commoditization and easy to get. Arlo is still living 5 years ago when they were a premium service and technology.
Not sure if Arlo will take this post down .. but this is my 2 cents worth. Good luck
Contact me if any one wants my original Arlo and its cameras plus the Arlo Pro and its camera (and dual charging station) on the cheap
I hear you. I have recently started looking at some other options as well. I have the Arlo Video Doorbell, 3 Arlo Q cameras, 2 Arlo Pro2, and 1 Arlo Pro 3. Because of some testing I was doing recently I got to experience some of the added features of Arlo Smart which I had pretty much written off. Well ofcourse with the Video Doorbell and the Pro 3 i need smart to be able to record to the cloud. Fortunately I also picked up a VMB4540 base station so i can record to that and have access to all of my recordings that way.
My wife has been asking for some time though to get CVR on a few of our cameras. I Paid $20 for 2 months so i could have CVR and Arlo smart on 5 cameras. This last month I got rid of Arlo Smart on all but the doorbell to get my bill down to $13. This is when Google just changed all of there plans and now you can have unlimited cameras with cloud storage for 60 days and 10 days of CVR on all of them for $12. Does that comparison make any sense. Well even with that that is a huge shift on investment to save that money. Well about a week and half ago I took delivery of a Eufy 2k indoor camera. It could have a little bit better design for cable managment, but it is 1/4 the price, can do motion and free CVR to a local SD CARD, and a remote RTSP server, and is 2k so it beats the Arlo Q hands down. The CVR browsing isn't perfect, but it is far better then what Arlo has for searching it. Now that camera isn't as good as the pro 3 or Ultra, but at 1/4th the price i can let allot slide. I could replace all my indoor cameras for less then price of just one Pro3, and likely will. I will also likely be eliminating my Arlo Q's and a Arlo Pro 2 that is indoors for the Eufy's with free CVR. Now I do think Arlo has better outdoor cameras right now. But that won't last forever the way this is going.
The way i look at it is some of the companies like Eufy are behind but are shrinking the gap quickly and are maturing at a lightning pace, and if Arlo doesn't do something soon they will be past.
Thanks for your information.. I'll be looking forward to install Eufy 2k cameras and forget this CROOK company... they simply get rid of my "legacy plan" now i'm forced to spent 4x more money to the same service that i had when i bought the cameras...
I've 6 pro2, 1 doorbell and 1 baby selling for cheap... let me know!
Likewise I have bought extra cameras and now have 8. If I had known the limit was 5 cameras for a basic plan instead of men previous 5 I would not have bought the extra cameras. Arlo is shooting itself in the foot with this change as it will limit customers decision to expand camera systems
One other thing to remember is only 5 cameras can stream or record at the same time on any basestation so you may need 2 basestations if your cameras are busy enough.
You can also create two accounts with there own basestation and split the cameras and then sharw the camera's between the accounts. I think that is what allot of users do to stay under the 5 camera limit.
I agree that the Elite plan should still cover 10 cameras but we have no say. 5 cameras and then discounted single camera add-ons is all that's available. Or just use local recordings.