Low(inaudible outside) speaker volume on all battery powered cameras

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This has been brought up many times before.  It is impossible to hear me talk to someone through the battery powered cameras.  It is the same for Ring cameras I have too.  HOWEVER, the only (Ring) camera I have that is wired, the sound to the outside is FINE!!  I have seen post where the blame is put on the fixed nature of the phone, and supposedly these Arlo cameras will work better if a computer is used in two way conversation.  As I said, I have both Arlo Pro battery powered, and one Ring battery and one Ring wired.  The only one that does sound OK to the outside is the wired Ring.  The Arlos when using my phone or iPad are useless for audio speaking outside.  Is there any work around or suggestion to solve this?  ALSO...are the newer Arlos any better at the outside speaker volume?  In other words, I would be willing to upgrade my Arlo battery powered cameras if I could be assured this is not still a problem.  Thanks in advance. Ken