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danwriter Star
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"Skittles" worked! 

cryocide Guide
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Thank you, @JessicaP .  While I'm only a customer and not a community volunteer, but please allow me to make some suggestions.  First, regarding "SuperUsers," might I recommend the position be renamed to something less associated with System Admin privileges?  "Top Contributor" may be more appropriate.

 

Second, I feel it would be quite appropriate that your link and the content of the Tweet be re-posted in its own, perhaps locked, thread and pinned to the top of this, or perhaps all, forums.  This kind of important info is easily lost in the churning sea of posts on a busy forum like this one, to the point where a search yields only a smaller sea instead of a definitive answer. 

 

Again, thank you.

viper111 Star
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@JessicaP wrote:

Hey everyone,

 

We wanted to let you know that our CEO has addressed the issue regarding moving from Adobe Flash to HTML5.

What is wrong here, HTML stands for HyperText Markup Language!

The number 5 is the version!

HTML comunicate with our browers, like Mozilla, IE, Safari. The development is controlled by the browser developers like APPLE, MICROSOFT and more.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHATWG

Based on this, you could use PHP, Pyton, ASP.NET and other programing language, to comunicate with html.

So those could generate html pages to comunicate with the browsers!

 

Viper

 

ADD on:

HTML5 is not a question it is needed.

Guru StephenB Guru
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@viper111 wrote:

@JessicaP wrote:

Hey everyone,

 

We wanted to let you know that our CEO has addressed the issue regarding moving from Adobe Flash to HTML5.

What is wrong here, HTML stands for HyperText Markup Language!

The number 5 is the version!

 


There's nothing wrong here.  HTML5 includes specific support for streaming that isn't available in older versions of html.

XJW Apprentice
Apprentice

@TomMac @JamesC

 

This flash issue has been a pain for a long time now.  It should have been fixed a long time ago.

 

Arlo seem determined to disappoint customers. They prioritise new gimmicks over basic functionality and their customers berate them for it.

 

For example

Turning Arlo on and off is tedious.  It's always been tedious.  This  is the most fundamental function.

When will you provide a one click shortcut to change modes ???? Trawling through menus and waiting for servers to respond is tedious.  Again requested years ago and not delivered.

 

Please start prioritising fixes for the issues customers have been requesting for years.

Guru TomMac Guru
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@XJW 

"Please start prioritising fixes for the issues customers have been requesting for years."

 

I wish I could pick what ideas Arlo works on first... but I don't work for Arlo ( other then getting a t-shirt now and then 🙂 )

Yes. it would be great to have a wiget to toglle/arm the system.

Just a long term user like you and tho i might have an ear or two that listens, Arlo sets it's own priorities based on their marketing/designs

 

 

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viper111 Star
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@StephenB wrote:

@viper111 wrote:

@JessicaP wrote:

Hey everyone,

 

We wanted to let you know that our CEO has addressed the issue regarding moving from Adobe Flash to HTML5.

What is wrong here, HTML stands for HyperText Markup Language!

The number 5 is the version!

 


There's nothing wrong here.  HTML5 includes specific support for streaming that isn't available in older versions of html.


Streaming is done with the Tag <video> and <audio>

Where is the login and the source of the video files coming from, most likely from a database!

HTML5  will play the video!

Stewcruiser Initiate
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What is the strategy to develop a replacement for FLASH PLAYER?  Support runs out soon and we can't have our Arlo products in limbo with our browsers.  HTML5?  Please advise.

Model: VMC3030 | Arlo Wire-Free Camera
Guru StephenB Guru
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@viper111 wrote:


HTML5  will play the video!


So what's your point?  Alro uses Flash today, they have plans to cut over to HTML5, but haven't yet announced the date. They aren't saying the HTML5 won't work, quite the contrary.  It undoubtedly is a fair amount of work to re-do their back end to use it.

 

We're all getting tired of having to do the flash dance in our browsers, and are hoping they move on to HTML5 sooner rather than later, so there is no disagreement about that.

Guru StephenB Guru
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Arlo has said they will switch over to html5.  Obviously they need to do that before flash is discontinued in 2020.

danwriter Star
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My Skittles comment was meant to underscore the fact that Arlo had not publicly addressed the issue of Flash's demise, and to prompt them to do so at the C level. I'd like to think it worked. The executive suite at tech companies have grown disturbingly distant from their user bases, focused instead on shareholder value and by extension their own bottom lines. Arlo now says they're on it. They have a year to prove it.

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@danwriter wrote:

My Skittles comment was meant to underscore the fact that Arlo had not publicly addressed the issue of Flash's demise, and to prompt them to do so at the C level.

To be clear, my own question/comment above was directed to @viper111's posts, not to your earlier skittles one.  

 

I am hoping they'll move off of flash sooner rather than later.

 

 

viper111 Star
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@StephenB wrote:

Arlo has said they will switch over to html5.  Obviously they need to do that before flash is discontinued in 2020.


Hi Stephen,

I never said otherwise! I'm just saying that HTML5 won't cut it alone, they need an API. That API need to run on that server. They need to build one like the have on the phone, I do not agree with some people here, the phone apps need to be upgraded to certain standards, to make the web api matching.

I understand ARLO, the modification to be competitive in the future, that will help them to transfer all modification to the web platform.

What arlo should do: Arlo got a great Community, use them as tester for the upgraded apps and the web api.

Other company's do it to.

 

When ARLO developed the Flash API, that baby was already death.

 

 

jamesam Initiate
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Chrome, Firefox, and other browsers are disconnecting adobe Flash player at the end of the year 2020.  What is ARLO doing to continue working after that date? As of today it takes a long time to open ARLO because you have to load Flash player each time, and by the time ARLO opens the problem is over.
 
"Flash is disabled by default As of now, Google Chrome will block Adobe Flash by default on all websites. You can enable it, but you can only use it in the click-to-play mode. You’ll get a warning that Chrome won’t support the Flash Player after December 2020."
Model: VMC3030 | Arlo Wire-Free Camera
Guru StephenB Guru
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There are lots of other posts on this subject - they've said they are switching to HTML5.  They haven't said when yet.

@jamesam wrote:
 
You’ll get a warning that Chrome won’t support the Flash Player after December 2020."

Meaning Arlo has over a year before they are forced to switch to HTML5.  Hopefully they will do that sooner rather than later.

 

 

cryocide Guide
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@viper111 wrote:

I never said otherwise! I'm just saying that HTML5 won't cut it alone, they need an API. That API need to run on that server. They need to build one like the have on the phone, I do not agree with some people here, the phone apps need to be upgraded to certain standards, to make the web api matching.

 

I understand ARLO, the modification to be competitive in the future, that will help them to transfer all modification to the web platform.

  

I don't know what they have going on at the back end, but it sounds like you do.  Maybe you can give them a hand.

 

https://www.arlo.com/en-us/about/careers/default.aspx

 

storgeman Aspirant
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Under the lastest version of Modzilla Fire Fox (69.0), leaving the browser tab open is not the solution.   If you log out but keep the tab open and then come back sometime later, you can re-log in, but if you want to play/record a video, the FLASH message returns again.   This worked ok in previous versions of FF, but in the lastest anymore.

 

For thos that are using Windows 10 I have found a Windows Store app called "Home Remote", where you can view all of the recordings that are saved and play them at anytime.  Could be an alternate solution until ARLO gets its act together. 

Dz0 Guide
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Please stop updating the interface and wasting development cycles that include flash player.  You're just making it more clunky and it's garbage.  Cant even watch videos on web anymore, have to watch them on the phone app only.  Garbage.

Guru StephenB Guru
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@Dz0 wrote:

Cant even watch videos on web anymore


To be clear, you can.  Just not as easily as we all want.

Dbanks Aspirant
Aspirant

Arlo any update on the lost of Flash? Getting harder and harder to use the product with Crome. Love the product but not the no info on what you are planning to do ASAP.

 

Model: VMC3030 | Arlo Wire-Free Camera
mwsmith2 Aspirant
Aspirant

Noticed the increasing number of issues around Adobe flash.  Several browsers indicate that by 2020 they will have removed 'flash' what is the alternative proposed to permit live streaming from the Pro2 cameras, considering that 'flash' is their current format

Model: VMC4030P | Arlo Pro 2 Wire-Free Camera
Jimmie_Arlo Aspirant
Aspirant

I found this issue since the Arlo release the latest firmware.

Firefox and google chrome do not work anymore and keep asking to update adobe flash player.

So after installed the adoble flash player and still not work.

it worked well only with Internet explore.

hope it help

Model: VMB4000 | Arlo Pro/Pro2 Base Station
NewfieDrool Luminary
Luminary

There are some solutions already posted on Firefox and chrome. I use chrome and got it to work by selecting the setting enabling permission to use flash.


@Jimmie_Arlo wrote:

I found this issue since the Arlo release the latest firmware.

Firefox and google chrome do not work anymore and keep asking to update adobe flash player.

So after installed the adoble flash player and still not work.

it worked well only with Internet explore.

hope it help



 

Guru StephenB Guru
Guru

@mwsmith2 wrote:

Noticed the increasing number of issues around Adobe flash.  Several browsers indicate that by 2020 they will have removed 'flash' what is the alternative proposed to permit live streaming from the Pro2 cameras, considering that 'flash' is their current format


This has been asked and answered many times here.

 

Arlo has said that they will switch to html5 streaming.  Note that the browser venders are planning to drop flash in December 2020 - not January.  So this isn't urgent, though it is getting tiresome to have to keep enabling flash in the browsers all the time.

myersw Virtuoso
Virtuoso

With the horrible firmware support Netgear is providing the router side of the house I can only hope the Arlo side is better managed. If not they need to get busy with phasing flash out and getting html5 support implemented. Phase out date will be here before we know it.  Was surprised when I installed the Arlo cameras that flash was needed. I had thought folks had moved away from that years ago. At least for me they are the only reason I still need flash. 


--Bill
ISP Comcast, Modem Netgear CM500V, Unifi Security Gateway, AP Netgear R7800 Voxel, Asus RT-AC86U Merlin Firmware
Model: VMC4030 | Arlo Pro Wire-Free Camera