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Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

Sincity — Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:43:48 GMT

Has anyone taken a camera apart? Is it easy? Since AC power is not an option, I'd like to convert one. Would a USB powersupply supply enough voltage/amperage?

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

buckorange — Thu, 06 Aug 2015 02:15:03 GMT

I currently have two of my four cameras running on a 12 volt dc 1.5 amp power supply. These cameras were located close to 110 outlets, so I couldn't see why these needed battery power. It's easily done. I don't know why netgear didn't make that a option. It would have been better for sales. They still could make that camera with both options included in one single camera. The batteries 3 volt, 4 each at 12 volts, operating range is between 800 to 2000 mAh, current stays the same. Need a power supply of 12 volts and between .8 to 2.0 amps would work. The batteries run at 1500 mAh so I would use a 1.5 amp power supply. The cameras power goes through at the bottom of the battery location, not on the sliding lid location. You need to solder at least two locations, postive, and negative. Make sure your wired postive power supply lead to postive, negative to negative locations. You need to run a jumper wire across both locations, diagonal from positive to postive, and negative to negative also. This will show you full battery power on the camera display. If you only wire power and ground to just two terminals it will only show two bars on battery power display. Hope this is a helpful hint to someone who is handy.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

buckorange — Fri, 07 Aug 2015 03:03:20 GMT

Just wanted to add that in the previous reply I did drill a hole through the side of the camera to run the female dc power plug socket jack connector. I drilled more toward the back and approximately 1/4 inch down from the battery cover sliding lid. I wanted to stay away from the battery lid cause you still have the option of converting it back to batteries, and just plugging the hole, and the lid area needs to be left alone for it to set on a flat surface. The particular socket I purchase came with positive, negative wires attached. I put silicon caulking to keep it sealed tight from moisture. I read in one of the replies a person said this was a 6 volt system, it is a 12 volt system, and www.Gearhack.com confirmed it, and they have other specs on the camera system too. The 12 volt 1.5 amp power supply can be bought through amazon or eBay. It was less than $14. The female dc power plug socket jack connector with 6 inches of wire can be bought at Amazon and eBay also, less that $10 for like for a dozen. I also bought a dc power supply extension cord with the male and female ends attached. They make those in various lengths. I purchase a 16 foot for $15. Just be sure all your connections are the standard dc power supply 2.1 mm x 5.5 mm connectors. I'm sure any modifications to the camera will void any warranty. If you decide to do this be patient and be sure you double check that you have your wire leads right. I checked mine out with a multimeter to be sure. I had more pictures and images but this format won't let me attach them, sorry.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

Sincity — Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:18:17 GMT

Brilliant! Thanks for your answer. These things also seem to run on 5V using the micro-USB port under the rubber seal. Another user said that long-term may burn it out.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

jimmyzshack — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:54:35 GMT

yea you could probably just drill a hole in the battery compartment and use the micro usb and water proof the new opening with the wire going in. Don't know if i'll do it, as i have had other IP camera's and the main problem has always been the power supplies going out.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

buckorange — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:43:19 GMT

These power supplies are pretty cheap. If you can get two years out of just one your ahead of changing out batteries at the cost of four per camera. I have power supplies on other electronics I have and I have never had any of them give me problems. It's all made in china, anything can happen. The true test is time.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

rajthepi — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 06:24:02 GMT

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Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

Tulley — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:54:46 GMT

Yeah I would like to know how to connect up 12v. I am a litte uncertain as these cameras do run off just two batteries meaning 6V. This makes me think its two 6v in parallel but appently you have it running on 12v. Can these devices just be extremely flexible?!

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

TomMac — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:44:35 GMT

Tulley wrote:
Yeah I would like to know how to connect up 12v. I am a litte uncertain as these cameras do run off just two batteries meaning 6V. This makes me think its two 6v in parallel but appently you have it running on 12v. Can these devices just be extremely flexible?!

Going to say again, these Cameras are not 12v... they are 6v. ( actually 6.4v as the OEM cells new are 3.2v each ) Don't believe everything written on the internet.

First, the original day cam ( never sold ) used only 2 batteries due to lack of draw for IR illuminators. You can also run the IR cam on two cells perfectly but for less time than 4 as they are 2 sets in parrellel to double the available current ( usage time ).

Second , the fact you can feed it 12v just means that the components can handle the higer voltage and don't forget there is a good voltage drop with DC over a run of wire ( based on gauge and lenght ).

As to the input voltage, using 3.7v rechargables, they can be as high as 4.2v+ off charge so the Arlo cams accept 8.4v without problem ( netgear has stated these cells will not damage the cams )

If you want to do the mods listed, that is up to you, but for long term I would stay closer to the designed input voltage if able

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

buckorange — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:24:20 GMT

I would say there is a varible range of voltage on the Arlo camera. You read about some of the recharble batteries some people are using, and there like almost 1.5 volt higher output per battery. I do realize the current loss running longer power cable. The picture I posted of the camera has roughly 25 feet of cable. So I used a 12 volt 2000 mAh, transformer in that location, being your regular batteries are running at 1500 mAh. The other camera I have has only four feet of cable so I used a 12 volt 1500 mAh transformer. I haven't had any issues with the conversion. No problems. I tryed to post more pictures, but not easy on this site, with the size, volume. Just remember don't always believe what you read on the internet, that probably can be said about this site too. My conversion was just, to share another alternative, and make the Arlo camera more versatile.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

seggreeses — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:53:22 GMT

Here is my mod.

Only need a 6V 2A adapter and 2 clips per camera.

After the modification there was a big rain for 3 hours, and the camera is perfectly rain proof. The motion detection and the recording is perfectly working.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

TomMac — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:02:27 GMT

buckorange wrote:
I would say there is a varible range of voltage on the Arlo camera. You read about some of the recharble batteries some people are using, and there like almost 1.5 volt higher output per battery. I do realize the current loss running longer power cable. The picture I posted of the camera has roughly 25 feet of cable. So I used a 12 volt 2000 mAh, transformer in that location, being your regular batteries are running at 1500 mAh. The other camera I have has only four feet of cable so I used a 12 volt 1500 mAh transformer. I haven't had any issues with the conversion. No problems. I tryed to post more pictures, but not easy on this site, with the size, volume. Just remember don't always believe what you read on the internet, that probably can be said about this site too. My conversion was just, to share another alternative, and make the Arlo camera more versatile.

BTW, I like out of the box thinking... so don't think i was poo-poo'ing the change over.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

Schorschi — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:36:54 GMT

buckorange wrote:
So I used a 12 volt 2000 mAh, transformer in that location, being your regular batteries are running at 1500 mAh. The other camera I have has only four feet of cable so I used a 12 volt 1500 mAh transformer.

Careful with your units and deductions here.

mAh is a measure of capacity. What you meant is mA maximum current for your power adapters.

And you can't really compare a battery's capacity with the maximum amperage of a power adapter. I.e. a battery with 1500 mAh capacity does not provide (a maximum) current at 1500 mA.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

Bhewit — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 02:28:12 GMT

I have a camera set on order and like the idea of eliminating the batteries and hard wiring as shown in this thread. My question is do these cameras need to be re-synced every time the battery is changed? If so then hard wiring the cameras power creates syncing issues since the cameras would be plugged in a long way from the base station. (Does my concern make sense?)

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

TomMac — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 04:13:40 GMT

Bhewit wrote:
I have a camera set on order and like the idea of eliminating the batteries and hard wiring as shown in this thread. My question is do these cameras need to be re-synced every time the battery is changed? If so then hard wiring the cameras power creates syncing issues since the cameras would be plugged in a long way from the base station. (Does my concern make sense?)

If in a good range to the base, when batteries are changed they will auto re-sync... no button pushing required

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

buckorange — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 14:37:46 GMT

I agree with TomMac. No issues with auto reset if your within range of the base station. I occasionally unplug my cameras that run on the power supply and they automatically reset.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

Bhewit — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 15:36:07 GMT

Thanks for the replies. Another question, did you install an in-line fuse for each camera and if so what current rating?

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

buckorange — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 17:14:52 GMT

Bhewit wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Another question, did you install an in-line fuse for each camera and if so what current rating?

No, I did not install an in-line fuse. Possibly not a bad idea though. I guess the question is what amp rating will your transformer be. The fuse would have to be a little higher than your transformer amp output, or you would keep taking out your fuse. That's my best guess.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

Bhewit — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 17:44:17 GMT

If it is a 6v 2 amp power supply that doesn't mean the camera is pulling 2 amps. I would expect less than 1 amp but don't really know. So a fuse would be somewhere between what the camera draws and the 2 amps. Don't know what the resistance of the camera circuitry is.

Re: Easy to take camera apart and solder leads to power camera using AC adapter?

buckorange — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 18:05:26 GMT

Was just thinking once you have your DC transformer and you wire it without the fuse first. If you can get your hands on a clamp-on Amp Meter, or know someone who has one. Separate your two wires and clamp around the positive wire and measure your amp usage at start up (first turning on the camera through the Auto reset and the running amperage with camera running). What ever is the highest, I would select a fuse 1/2 to 1 amp higher. Would be better than just guessing. Just a suggestion.