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    <title>topic Re: Want to replace an old ARLO system vmc3030 in Arlo</title>
    <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo/SmartHub-vs-Base-Station-Ultra-2-directly-to-WiFi-Buy-different/m-p/1837659#M80701</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;One thing you should keep in mind:&amp;nbsp; All the newer cameras (starting with the Ultra in 2018) require a paid subscription to get cloud storage.&amp;nbsp; That includes the Pro 4 and Essential models.&amp;nbsp; The cameras come with a free 3-month trial subscription, and you will lose cloud storage when that expires (unless you purchase it).&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://kb.arlo.com/000062312/What-options-will-I-have-when-the-Arlo-trial-ends" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://kb.arlo.com/000062312/What-options-will-I-have-when-the-Arlo-trial-ends&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/845473"&gt;@pmoultrie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have an Arlo battery-powered system that is over 10 years old&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FWIW, the first Arlo system was launched in 2014, so no more than 7 years old.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1. What is a Smarthub verses a Base Station?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;A smarthub is just a higher-end base station.&amp;nbsp; They provide some features that the older base stations can't - in particular, direct access to local storage.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2. When it says the Arlo Ultra 2 can 'connect directly to WI-FI', does that mean that no base station is needed (or Smarthub, whatever that is)?&amp;nbsp; If so, how does each camera connect to the Router?&amp;nbsp; Or does each camera have its own login info?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;Some newer cameras can connect directly to WiFi (and that does mean no base station is needed).&amp;nbsp; But the Ultra 2 isn't one of those cameras - it requires a base (preferably a smarthub).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;If you are connecting the camera to the your wifi, then you will enter your network name/passphrase into the app (or my.arlo.com) during setup.&amp;nbsp; That will be turned into a QR code that you aim the camera at.&amp;nbsp; The camera will then join that network.&amp;nbsp; One difference is with the modes.&amp;nbsp; Modes normally are for a base (and control all cameras paired with the base).&amp;nbsp; If a camera is connected to home wifi, then it also has modes in the mode list - which only list that one camera.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;All the cameras (and multiple bases if you have them) are normally in the same account.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;3. I have one of the five areas that would be best with the wide angle offered by the Arlo Pro 4.&amp;nbsp; If I buy four Arlo Ultra 2 cameras and 1 Arlo Pro 4 camera, can they work together?&amp;nbsp; [Not sure about this base station/smarthub stuff]&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;Yes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;One clarification - the Ultra 2 has a wider field of view than the Pro 3/Pro 4.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;4. &lt;SPAN style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 17px;"&gt;If I want to keep my newer H14 camera, will it work together with the Arlo Pro 4 and Arlo Ultra 2 cameras?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp; You can also keep your older cameras and base.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;5. &lt;SPAN style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 17px;"&gt;I even thought about going with four Arlo Essential cameras and one Arlo Pro 4 cameras, but don't know if they can work together.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;They do work together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;The Essential has similar features to the Pro 2, so if the Pro 2 is working, I'd stick with that.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2021 12:02:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-10-30T12:02:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SmartHub vs Base Station? Ultra 2 directly to WiFi? Buy different cameras?</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo/SmartHub-vs-Base-Station-Ultra-2-directly-to-WiFi-Buy-different/m-p/1837631#M80700</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have an Arlo battery-powered system that is over 10 years old, used externally, with a total of &lt;STRONG&gt;5&lt;/STRONG&gt; cameras (four VMC3030 and one newer H14 camera).&amp;nbsp; The system is increasingly giving me trouble with battery depletion and connectivity.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am considering replacing the system and am struggling with the many Arlo options now available.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Questions:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;What is a Smarthub verses a Base Station?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;When it says the Arlo Ultra 2 can 'connect directly to WI-FI', does that mean that no base station is needed (or Smarthub, whatever that is)?&amp;nbsp; If so, how does each camera connect to the Router?&amp;nbsp; Or does each camera have its own login info?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;I have one of the five areas that would be best with the wide angle offered by the Arlo Pro 4.&amp;nbsp; If I buy four Arlo Ultra 2 cameras and 1 Arlo Pro 4 camera, can they work together?&amp;nbsp; [Not sure about this base station/smarthub stuff]&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;If I want to keep my newer H14 camera, will it work together with the Arlo Pro 4 and Arlo Ultra 2 cameras?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;I even thought about going with four Arlo Essential cameras and one Arlo Pro 4 cameras, but don't know if they can work together.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Any advice or assistance will be much appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;pmoultrie&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:39:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo/SmartHub-vs-Base-Station-Ultra-2-directly-to-WiFi-Buy-different/m-p/1837631#M80700</guid>
      <dc:creator>pmoultrie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-01T14:39:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Want to replace an old ARLO system vmc3030</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo/SmartHub-vs-Base-Station-Ultra-2-directly-to-WiFi-Buy-different/m-p/1837659#M80701</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;One thing you should keep in mind:&amp;nbsp; All the newer cameras (starting with the Ultra in 2018) require a paid subscription to get cloud storage.&amp;nbsp; That includes the Pro 4 and Essential models.&amp;nbsp; The cameras come with a free 3-month trial subscription, and you will lose cloud storage when that expires (unless you purchase it).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://kb.arlo.com/000062312/What-options-will-I-have-when-the-Arlo-trial-ends" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://kb.arlo.com/000062312/What-options-will-I-have-when-the-Arlo-trial-ends&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/845473"&gt;@pmoultrie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have an Arlo battery-powered system that is over 10 years old&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FWIW, the first Arlo system was launched in 2014, so no more than 7 years old.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1. What is a Smarthub verses a Base Station?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;A smarthub is just a higher-end base station.&amp;nbsp; They provide some features that the older base stations can't - in particular, direct access to local storage.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2. When it says the Arlo Ultra 2 can 'connect directly to WI-FI', does that mean that no base station is needed (or Smarthub, whatever that is)?&amp;nbsp; If so, how does each camera connect to the Router?&amp;nbsp; Or does each camera have its own login info?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;Some newer cameras can connect directly to WiFi (and that does mean no base station is needed).&amp;nbsp; But the Ultra 2 isn't one of those cameras - it requires a base (preferably a smarthub).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;If you are connecting the camera to the your wifi, then you will enter your network name/passphrase into the app (or my.arlo.com) during setup.&amp;nbsp; That will be turned into a QR code that you aim the camera at.&amp;nbsp; The camera will then join that network.&amp;nbsp; One difference is with the modes.&amp;nbsp; Modes normally are for a base (and control all cameras paired with the base).&amp;nbsp; If a camera is connected to home wifi, then it also has modes in the mode list - which only list that one camera.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;All the cameras (and multiple bases if you have them) are normally in the same account.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;3. I have one of the five areas that would be best with the wide angle offered by the Arlo Pro 4.&amp;nbsp; If I buy four Arlo Ultra 2 cameras and 1 Arlo Pro 4 camera, can they work together?&amp;nbsp; [Not sure about this base station/smarthub stuff]&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;Yes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;One clarification - the Ultra 2 has a wider field of view than the Pro 3/Pro 4.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;4. &lt;SPAN style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 17px;"&gt;If I want to keep my newer H14 camera, will it work together with the Arlo Pro 4 and Arlo Ultra 2 cameras?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp; You can also keep your older cameras and base.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;5. &lt;SPAN style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 17px;"&gt;I even thought about going with four Arlo Essential cameras and one Arlo Pro 4 cameras, but don't know if they can work together.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;They do work together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="lia-indent-padding-left-30px"&gt;The Essential has similar features to the Pro 2, so if the Pro 2 is working, I'd stick with that.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2021 12:02:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo/SmartHub-vs-Base-Station-Ultra-2-directly-to-WiFi-Buy-different/m-p/1837659#M80701</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-30T12:02:08Z</dc:date>
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