topic Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode in Arlo Secure

Shared user can no longer can change mode

MissCourts — Fri, 07 Jul 2023 17:49:30 GMT

Hey all, my partner and I recently purchased new Arlo cameras and got them all set up, I was invited onto his account and was great as when he is away I could arm the cameras etc etc. I updated the app this morning and now I can no longer change the mode from the app. This is a big let down as my partner is away a bit so being able to do it myself was a big draw. Is this a glitch or the new normal?

No longer able to arm/disarm shared devices

Cartero95 — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:36:19 GMT

I am no longer able to arm/disarm shared devices.

From the android app, the shared devices are just displaying 'connecting...' with no ability to arm/disarm.

However I am able to connect to the live feed of the camera without any issue.

I have also tried the option to 'arm/disarm all devices' but fails as well.

From the web application, I am able to see the arm/disarm buttons for shared devices.

However, despite showing me that the device is armed/disarmed, the actual status is not changing on the camera.

Is anybody else facing this issue?

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

JamesC — Fri, 07 Jul 2023 17:55:12 GMT

MissCourts,

To arm or disarm cameras on a shared account, the account must have access rights toggled on. Check the primary account to make sure this is toggled on for the shared account. For more information on this feature, take a look here: https://kb.arlo.com/1103229/What-privileges-do-my-friends-have-when-I-grant-them-access-rights-in-my-Arlo-account

JamesC

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

MissCourts — Fri, 07 Jul 2023 20:31:58 GMT

We have done that. I used to be able to arm away and go back to standby but since I updated the app I can no longer do that. Had that feature been removed? I couldn’t see it as an option in the link above. We have secure 4.0 I think

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

AZh — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 07:04:21 GMT

I experience the same - all modes are displayed as disabled for shared devices even though other feature that require access right work (editing automations etc). This feature is critical, please provide resolution ASAP.

Access Limitations?

-RonB- — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 16:50:54 GMT

My wife has access / visibility to our cameras (Pro 5S), but cannot change the dashboard from "Standby" to "Arm Home" or "Arm Away". Wondering it that is only something I can do as the primary account or is there a way for her to be able to make such changes on the dashboard as well?

Re: Access Limitations?

jguerdat — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 13:10:54 GMT

With the new user interface (UI) that uses Feed to view videos, changing modes isn't possible for any person who was granted access according to this FAQ:

https://kb.arlo.com/000062945/What-privileges-do-my-friends-have-when-I-grant-them-access-rights-in-my-Arlo-account-Arlo-Secure-4-0

Re: Access Limitations?

AZh — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:15:35 GMT

Hello @jguerdat ! I'm pretty sure that I checked out this article when I discovered the issue and it said that users with Access Rights can "Access and change modes" (and yes, I did check that the article was about UI with Feed). In any case, users with Access Rights have access to create/modify Routines which effectively allows them to change modes, just in very complicated way. If disallowing changing modes is intentional, this is a horrible product decision that removes one of the critical features for shared access. This functionality must be fixed; if the concern is that users with Access Rights might have too much access, then it should be allowed to enable/disable specific access type on user by user basis.

Re: Access Limitations?

AZh — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:22:05 GMT

@jguerdat I also want to point out that "new user interface" usually means that the user UI experience changes, but functionality stays the same. We were happily using the old, simpler UI (that allowed user with Access Rights change modes), until we were forced to upgrade the app to be able to grant access to another person in our household and this upgrade removed the feature that we use every day.

Re: No longer able to arm/disarm shared devices

Retired_Member — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 23:49:33 GMT

Happened to me recently as well. I have two accounts and they share each others cameras. One account can no longer arm or disarm the cameras of the shared account. However the other account can. Both accounts have access rights enabled. I am on iphone 14. When I log into the web portal it all works fine but not on my iphone. If it were my phone, then both accounts would have the same issue but only one account can't arm or disarm the shared account. I have deleted the app and reinstalled it, revoked the shared account and reinvited, updated IOS and the problem persists. I have been sharing accounts for 5 years and it has alway worked. So far support has been no help whatsoever. Oh, and I am a subscriber on both accounts, so I am paying for something I can't properly use.

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

Patmat439 — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 00:43:30 GMT

Agreed! This is a serious issue as my wife and I both need to be able to manage cameras. It is also disappointing as this was functionality that existed when we bought our system. Please address ASAP!

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

Retired_Member — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 11:00:48 GMT

This is really awful and might be a deal killer. I have two accounts with my wife using one and me using one. One account is for one home the other for our winter home. Both homes share so both accounts see all the cameras. Been that way for many years and both users can arm or disarm the shared account. Suddenly that stopped, but the odd thing is that only one account can't change the modes for the other shared account. The other account allows changing modes of that shared account. This app is so riddled with bugs and we've endured the too many to count bugs for 6 years. We are about at our wits end. We have 9 cameras in one home and 6 in the other. All but 2 cameras are the new Arlo 5s cameras we recently upgraded. Do the math Arlo, we've spent thousands over the years. Both accounts are on the secure plan subscription, and now this? Yes, access rights are turned on, they always have been and I've double checked. Funny thing is, when log in to the web interface, I can change modes on the shared account in question, but not on my Iphone 14 pro. I've even unshared and reinvited the account, as well as remove the app and redownloaded it. Still doesn't work. Maybe its time to start testing other cameras and sell the whole lot and finally be done.

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

AZh — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 14:34:09 GMT

@Retired_Member You mentioned that only one account cannot change the modes of the shared account. I am curious if you use these accounts on 2 different devices, and if yes - are different app versions installed in these two devices? I am asking because this sounds like a problem that was introduced just recent,y.

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

-RonB- — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:07:37 GMT

We are on the same UI and I have granted her all access rights. This needs fixed ASAP. My wife has to have the ability to change from Standby to Armed.

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

JamesC — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 18:54:04 GMT

For those of you experiencing this issue, for the shared account to make changes to modes they must navigate to Dashboard (far left on the bottom of the app), make sure the shared location is selected at the top of the app screen and then make a mode selection.

Are you still experiencing this behavior?

JamesC

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

AZh — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 19:03:25 GMT

@JamesC yes. When shared location is selected on the top, the buttons that change mode are disabled.
Shared location:

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

-RonB- — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 19:03:47 GMT

Sorry, that doesn't work. When she clicks to our shared account, the mode options are greyed out and cannot be changed. In the setup, it required her to setup her own account (no cameras, no smart hub) and she can select that location and change modes, but that "location" isn't real....only exists because in setup it required her to establish her own account.

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

JamesC — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 19:10:16 GMT

AZh,

That behavior only occurs if Access Rights for the shared user is disabled. Log in to the primary account and navigate to Settings > People. Does it show the shared user having restricted access or admin?

-RonB-

Again, the mode changes need to be done within Dashboard. The shared user will not be able to make changes under Routines. On the shared account, navigate to Dashboard, select the shared location and then you should be able to adjust the mode.

JamesC

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

AZh — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 19:12:27 GMT

The shared user had admin access. This actually can be confirmed by the fact that while the mode buttons are disabled for the shared location for this user, the user can add/modify Automations (see + on the screenshot)

Re: Shared user can no longer can change mode

AZh — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 19:17:04 GMT

@JamesC can you try the same scenario with the latest iOS version - 4.6?