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    <title>topic Re: What's the longest time of recordings and can they be kept permanently if I only use local stora in Arlo Pro 5S 2K</title>
    <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2451045#M4879</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I think I only need motion-triggered and audio-triggered recordings for now. Do I still need the subscription? And do you mind giving a bit more info on the&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;activity zones&amp;nbsp;and smart detection?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 07:01:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>sherlock643</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-05-20T07:01:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>What's the longest time of recordings and can they be kept permanently if I only use local storage?</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2450616#M4838</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm thinking of getting the Pro 5S and the SmartHub, and use the local storage by attaching an external drive. I wanna know how long can the camera record at most for one recorded video (30 mins, 1 hour, etc.) and if the recorded videos can be stored in my external drive permanently as long as I don't delete them on my side or the videos don't surpass the volume capacity.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 03:49:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sherlock643</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-15T03:49:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What's the longest time of recordings and can they be kept permanently if I only use local stora</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2450633#M4840</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1033774"&gt;@sherlock643&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm thinking of getting the Pro 5S and the SmartHub, and use the local storage by attaching an external drive. I wanna know how long can the camera record at most for one recorded video (30 mins, 1 hour, etc.) and if the recorded videos can be stored in my external drive permanently as long as I don't delete them on my side or the videos don't surpass the volume capacity.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Note that VMB5000 requires a microSD card; while the VMB4540 requires USB.&amp;nbsp; In the case of the VMB4540, I always recommend using a thumb drive.&amp;nbsp; 128GB-512GB is enough, and the thumb drive is easier to manage (no need to worry about external power, etc).&amp;nbsp; 128 GB can hold ~300 hours of recordings from a Pro 5s.&amp;nbsp; The max capacity is 2 TB, and the storage is formatted as FAT32.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Recording time doesn't change - motion recordings can be up to 5 minutes long, but not longer.&amp;nbsp; Videos can't be deleted via the app (unless you reformat the storage), but normally are set to be overwritten as the storage fills.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There are several limitations with local storage compared with the subscription - if you want details on that, post back.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 12:14:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2450633#M4840</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-15T12:14:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What's the longest time of recordings and can they be kept permanently if I only use local stora</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2450913#M4865</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the details about local storage. And yes I'd love to learn more about the pros and cons of it compared to having the subscription.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 08:01:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2450913#M4865</guid>
      <dc:creator>sherlock643</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-19T08:01:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What's the longest time of recordings and can they be kept permanently if I only use local stora</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2450935#M4868</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1033774"&gt;@sherlock643&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the details about local storage. And yes I'd love to learn more about the pros and cons of it compared to having the subscription.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As far as local storage goes, the limitations are&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;recordings can only be seen in the app (not my.arlo.com)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;recordings can only be seen using the primary account (not "friend" accounts)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;no thumbnails, so each recording needs to be downloaded to your phone before you see anything&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;no ability to make manual recordings or take snapshots&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;remote access requires router setting changes that some find difficult (and which do not work with some internet service providers).&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cloud Storage is not the only subscription feature, activity zones (when on battery power) and smart detection also require a subscription.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 13:45:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2450935#M4868</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-19T13:45:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What's the longest time of recordings and can they be kept permanently if I only use local stora</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2451045#M4879</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think I only need motion-triggered and audio-triggered recordings for now. Do I still need the subscription? And do you mind giving a bit more info on the&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;activity zones&amp;nbsp;and smart detection?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 07:01:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2451045#M4879</guid>
      <dc:creator>sherlock643</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-20T07:01:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What's the longest time of recordings and can they be kept permanently if I only use local stora</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2451070#M4881</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1033774"&gt;@sherlock643&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think I only need motion-triggered and audio-triggered recordings for now. Do I still need the subscription?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Again, if you want cloud recordings you will need the subscription.&amp;nbsp; If you are ok with local storage, then you don't.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There will be a trial subscription (30 days) when you install the cameras.&amp;nbsp; Set up local storage during the trial (so both will be available) - that will help you sort out whether local storage will work for you (or not).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1033774"&gt;@sherlock643&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;And do you mind giving a bit more info on the&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;activity zones&amp;nbsp;and smart detection?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;A href="https://kb.arlo.com/1001908/What-are-Arlo-Activity-Zones-and-how-do-I-create-them" target="_blank"&gt;https://kb.arlo.com/1001908/What-are-Arlo-Activity-Zones-and-how-do-I-create-them&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;A href="https://kb.arlo.com/000063424/What-are-Arlo-Smart-Detections-and-how-do-I-set-them-up" target="_blank"&gt;https://kb.arlo.com/000063424/What-are-Arlo-Smart-Detections-and-how-do-I-set-them-up&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;One important aspect on activity zones - although they will reduce unwanted notifications, they will not increase battery life.&amp;nbsp; That is because the camera always streams video when it detects motion, and the Arlo Cloud supresses recordings and notifications when the motion is out-of-zone.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1033774"&gt;@sherlock643&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think I only need motion-triggered and audio-triggered recordings for now.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FWIW, I don't use audio-triggering myself.&amp;nbsp; Traffic noise in my area triggers the cameras too often for it to be useful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 12:42:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-5S-2K/What-s-the-longest-time-of-recordings-and-can-they-be-kept/m-p/2451070#M4881</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-20T12:42:35Z</dc:date>
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