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    <title>topic Re: Pro4 camera w/ VMB4000r3 hub; cannot view local recordings in Arlo Pro 4</title>
    <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862679#M4169</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/868248"&gt;@jdef&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have an existing Arlo system with older Arlo ultra cameras.&amp;nbsp; i added a new arlo pro4.&amp;nbsp; it worked fine while the trial subscription lasted, but now it is not saving recordings to arlo cloud, although my older cameras are (but recordings don't last; whick is okay).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't believe you have ultras - I believe you have older cameras (like Arlo Pro 2 cameras), which have 7-day free cloud storage.&amp;nbsp; Newer cameras (starting with the Ultra in 2018) do not have this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you open the camera, you should find a part number label inside that start with VM.&amp;nbsp; Look for it behind the battery.&amp;nbsp; Can you do that, and post the part number you find there.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/868248"&gt;@jdef&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) have my arlo pro4 camera write temp videos to the cloud so i can view them as I can with my arlo ultra cameras, using my iphone&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;or&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2) view my local usb recordings from my iphone on my VMB4000r3 hub&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The VMB4000 does not support direct access to local storage, so #2 is not possible.&amp;nbsp; (Note you are not seeing the local recordings from other cameras on the iphone either, you are seeing the 7-day cloud recordings).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;#1 requires a subscription.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 19:06:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-05-08T19:06:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Pro4 camera w/ VMB4000r3 hub; cannot view local recordings</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862677#M4167</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have an existing Arlo system with older Arlo ultra cameras.&amp;nbsp; i added a new arlo pro4.&amp;nbsp; it worked fine while the trial subscription lasted, but now it is not saving recordings to arlo cloud, although my older cameras are (but recordings don't last; whick is okay).&amp;nbsp; I have a USB in my VMB4000r3 base station.&amp;nbsp; I would like to either:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) have my arlo pro4 camera write temp videos to the cloud so i can view them as I can with my arlo ultra cameras, using my iphone&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;or&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) view my local usb recordings from my iphone on my VMB4000r3 hub&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, do I have to have a payed subscription to view recordings in the arlo cloud for my Pro4, even if I don't need them saved?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Works fine for my older Arlo Ultra cameras.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Thank you!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 18:12:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862677#M4167</guid>
      <dc:creator>jdef</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-05-08T18:12:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pro4 camera w/ VMB4000r3 hub; cannot view local recordings</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862679#M4169</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/868248"&gt;@jdef&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have an existing Arlo system with older Arlo ultra cameras.&amp;nbsp; i added a new arlo pro4.&amp;nbsp; it worked fine while the trial subscription lasted, but now it is not saving recordings to arlo cloud, although my older cameras are (but recordings don't last; whick is okay).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't believe you have ultras - I believe you have older cameras (like Arlo Pro 2 cameras), which have 7-day free cloud storage.&amp;nbsp; Newer cameras (starting with the Ultra in 2018) do not have this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you open the camera, you should find a part number label inside that start with VM.&amp;nbsp; Look for it behind the battery.&amp;nbsp; Can you do that, and post the part number you find there.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/868248"&gt;@jdef&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) have my arlo pro4 camera write temp videos to the cloud so i can view them as I can with my arlo ultra cameras, using my iphone&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;or&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2) view my local usb recordings from my iphone on my VMB4000r3 hub&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The VMB4000 does not support direct access to local storage, so #2 is not possible.&amp;nbsp; (Note you are not seeing the local recordings from other cameras on the iphone either, you are seeing the 7-day cloud recordings).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;#1 requires a subscription.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 19:06:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862679#M4169</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-05-08T19:06:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pro4 camera w/ VMB4000r3 hub; cannot view local recordings</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862680#M4170</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you StevenB.&amp;nbsp; My older cameras have the p/n VMC4030.&amp;nbsp; They work fine, allowing me to view activity on my iPhone (although the activity does fall off after a few days).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So you are saying the the older cameras allow for 7 day Arlo cloud storage without a paid subscription, but this is not the case for the new Pro4 that I purchased?&amp;nbsp; In other words, in my current set up, the only way for me to view the recordings from the new Pro4 would be:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) paid subscription for that camera&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2)upgrade my base hub to a model that supports direct access to local storage?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much for you help!!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 19:18:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862680#M4170</guid>
      <dc:creator>jdef</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-05-08T19:18:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pro4 camera w/ VMB4000r3 hub; cannot view local recordings</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862683#M4172</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/868248"&gt;@jdef&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My older cameras have the p/n VMC4030.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ok, those are Pro cameras - not Ultras.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.arlo.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/868248"&gt;@jdef&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So you are saying the the older cameras allow for 7 day Arlo cloud storage without a paid subscription, but this is not the case for the new Pro4 that I purchased?&amp;nbsp; In other words, in my current set up, the only way for me to view the recordings from the new Pro4 would be:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) paid subscription for that camera&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2)upgrade my base hub to a model that supports direct access to local storage?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Correct.&amp;nbsp; The smarthubs you'd need for option 2 are either the VMB4540 or VMB5000.&amp;nbsp; MSRP for the VMB4540 would be $99 USD - though at the moment they are in short supply, and several sellers are charging a lot more than MSRP.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There are several limitations for option 2:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Recordings only accessible from the app (not PC browsers)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Recordings only accessible to the primary account (not friend accounts)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;No thumbnails in the library or in notifications&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;no ability to make manual recordings or snapshots&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;remote access requires router configuration changes that many find difficult&amp;nbsp; - and which don't work on some networks (starlink and tmobile broadband being two examples).&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There are other subscription features you'd also lose - activity zones and smart notifications.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 20:40:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862683#M4172</guid>
      <dc:creator>StephenB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-05-08T20:40:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Pro4 camera w/ VMB4000r3 hub; cannot view local recordings</title>
      <link>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862696#M4176</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you so very much!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; That explains quite a lot!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2022 01:25:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Pro-4/Pro4-camera-w-VMB4000r3-hub-cannot-view-local-recordings/m-p/1862696#M4176</guid>
      <dc:creator>jdef</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-05-09T01:25:51Z</dc:date>
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