topic Re: Motion detection is inconsistent in Features

Motion detection is inconsistent

jmeyer — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:09:11 GMT

My front door has a camera that is set at motion detection. I usually detects cars that drive by but doesn't catch a person until they are right in front of the camera. Other times it won't catch a car at all. It is set at 100% sensitivity because it isn't catching people soon enough. What I want is pretty much the opposite.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

Showguy — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:09:59 GMT

Take a good look around this forum. You will see what you are describing is characteristic of this system. You can try different mounting angles, different sensitivity levels, and you can read a book on scientic facts about how heat and light effect the type of motion sensor used in this system. In the end of the day, nothing much will change. You will always have inconsistency.

Sorry.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

Hula_Rock — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:23:56 GMT

PLEASE DO NOT RELY ON THIS SYSTEM TO PROTECT YOUR ASSETS, PROPERTY, FAMILY, ETC.

This system is only good for "Complimenting", your home security system. The inconsistancies with motion detection make this a glorified web cam at best.

If you want to see how your dog is doing inside, who is stealing your beer in the kitchen, etc., this is where this system shines.

I hope you kept your reciept.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

RegDawg — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:15:33 GMT

Hula_Rock wrote:
PLEASE DO NOT RELY ON THIS SYSTEM TO PROTECT YOUR ASSETS, PROPERTY, FAMILY, ETC.

This system is only good for "Complimenting", your home security system. The inconsistancies with motion detection make this a glorified web cam at best.

If you want to see how your dog is doing inside, who is stealing your beer in the kitchen, etc., this is where this system shines.

I hope you kept your reciept.

You said it best. There are obviously better security camera's you can get but that would mean have the wiring installed throughout your home. I'm actually on the fence right now of returning my system (I purchased the 4 camera system + 1 add on). My biggest gripe is the motion detection. It does not record on time most of the time and sometimes it does not even record even though I know someone was there. I mean if you overlook the motion recording inconsistancy, it does fine. I mean its wireless, and the mounting areas are very flexible. No need to run wires througout your house to a hard drive. I think positives outweigh the negatives for me which is why I still have it...and believe me each security system will have negatives/positives. Just need to find that balance I guess.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

armoredsaint — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:17:31 GMT

like others have mention, this shouldn't be your main security/monitoring system - who knew it was full of flaws.

i am starting to think netgear is slowly backing away here...

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

sherzberg13 — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:36:16 GMT

This is one of my concerns as well. But after playing with the sensitivity, lighting and mount positions for each camera. They now record pretty consistantly. I have one camera I am still working on. It catches everything during the day but nothing at night. Still a work in progress. Thanks for sharing. At least I know I'm not alone. The good out way the bad. My front porch camera caught an intruder just a few weeks ago. I was able to use the video and capture a great still photo of him to give to the police.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

bpg710 — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:49:53 GMT

I agree! I'm in the same boat, as most of us are, in dealing with the many limitations of this system. My first camera I mounted outside captured a suspicious character walking from the side of my house and down my driveway in the middle of the night. Then two weeks later I captured that same guy again. I suspect he was snooping around the neighbor's house because both times nothing on my side was tampered with. Still, I now had some useable footage. Had I not been so successful from the start with a decent recording I probably would be returning this system for a lot of the same reasons people here list, mainly the inconsistency of how it detects motion.

My camera's and their corresponding angles will do a decent job 80-90% of the time and other times fail miserably. I'll finally get a camera in the perfect position and it will perform beautifully until it's time to change out the batteries and I have to spend time reposition the camera again. It can be very frustrating trying to duplicate that perfect position.

Since there are many positive features to Arlo, I've conceded to the fact it is what it is. No system is perfect. I wouldn't call Alro a complete security camera system but more of a quick easy solution to monitor your home or surroundings.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

RegDawg — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:09:34 GMT

bpg710 wrote:
I agree! I'm in the same boat, as most of us are, in dealing with the many limitations of this system. My first camera I mounted outside captured a suspicious character walking from the side of my house and down my driveway in the middle of the night. Then two weeks later I captured that same guy again. I suspect he was snooping around the neighbor's house because both times nothing on my side was tampered with. Still, I now had some useable footage. Had I not been so successful from the start with a decent recording I probably would be returning this system for a lot of the same reasons people here list, mainly the inconsistency of how it detects motion.

My camera's and their corresponding angles will do a decent job 80-90% of the time and other times fail miserably. I'll finally get a camera in the perfect position and it will perform beautifully until it's time to change out the batteries and I have to spend time reposition the camera again. It can be very frustrating trying to duplicate that perfect position.

Since there are many positive features to Arlo, I've conceded to the fact it is what it is. No system is perfect. I wouldn't call Alro a complete security camera system but more of a quick easy solution to monitor your home or surroundings.

As long as you understand what Arlo is, then its an excellent system.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

CG198 — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:44:14 GMT

The lag time has everything to do with "Cloud" storage. The cameras themselves for up and come on quickly during motion. Put it in test mode and watch it respond. If NETGEAR would allow local storage this could be easily fixed. Are you listening NETGEAR? I have 7 cameras and can get most movement. But it takes a great deal to d rules to set it up and make work. Even then you may miss something. I like the system in that I can move the cameras easily and the picture quality is decent. Battery life has not been an issue. 4 months and batteries are at full bars. Local storage that would fix many ills and make the system more of a security camera system.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

JamesC — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:14:17 GMT

CG198,

The Arlo team is listening. The idea of local storage has gained quite a bit of exposure on the Arlo Idea Exchange. If you haven't already, I encourage you to kudo those threads to help indicate how popular that idea is. I apologize that I do not have any official updates on local storage being a consideration/possibility but backing the idea will absolutely help it gain momentum. Thank you for your contribution!

JamesC

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

beconnor — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 01:10:06 GMT

I have found that my camera records very well if I position it so that people walk from side to side of the camera instead of walking right at the camera. The delay is only a second or two. I am happy with my system 😊

Re: Motion detection delay misses subjects, Motion detection is inconsistent

royvan — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:28:24 GMT

The system definitly needs some improvement in engineering. The 2-3 second delay will many times completely miss the subject which has already moved out out camera range. It also is very sensitive to vegitation movement. I have to turn down the sensitivity to almost 0 to filter out brush movement 30-40 feet away. I agree it is a good supplimental system to a security program but cannot be relied on to immediately catch the motion. It did catch one suspicious person in my front door courtyard area late at night. I downloaded and sent the information to the police.

Now that I have programed the system for 24/7 I have not been able to change the time settings. System seems to be locked on.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

sfabre1963 — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:46:29 GMT

I doubt the Netgear team is going to buy into this. Purchasing additional cloud storage is REVENUE!

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

sfabre1963 — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:51:09 GMT

This is pathetic, a family member pulls into my driveway, I get the motion detected alert, and they are already sitting on my living room couch when the video starts recording ! This is useless !

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

sfabre1963 — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:52:21 GMT

By the way the base station is maybe 30 feet away from the camera that picked up the motion !

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

Hula_Rock — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:45:03 GMT

You have to have pretty low expectations of this system in order for it to work correctly. Netgear is pretty much over their heads with these paper weights

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

CG198 — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:58:44 GMT

As with any new tech ( out since Jan) there are going to be issues. No its not perfect but the premise has merit and I have managed to get the system working fairly well. There is room for improvement that is for sure. But classifying them as "paperweight" is a bit of a stretch.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

CG198 — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 00:02:57 GMT

If you have the time set for 24/7 for all motion on the schedule mode you won't be able to change it unless to change the schedule.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

RegDawg — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 00:34:00 GMT

CG198 wrote:
As with any new tech ( out since Jan) there are going to be issues. No its not perfect but the premise has merit and I have managed to get the system working fairly well. There is room for improvement that is for sure. But classifying them as "paperweight" is a bit of a stretch.

Seriously, I love the Arlo but I also hate it but the positives outweight the negatives for me at least. As stated, this is a compliment to a home alarm system. This is not going to accurately identify the person that broke in your car most of the time. It should tell you that there was someone in your backyard or someone was on your front porch. If you have it set up in the right place, maybe for you it'll catch that face that was on your porch or who broke into your car. For most of us, its going to be trial and error on placement. This is the only true wireless security camera system on the market right now so gotta deal with what doesn't work so well and try to make it work. I mean, why did most of us buy the arlo? Honestly for me it was the wireless aspect of it. I didn't want to run wires all over my house or install electrical plugs.

Re: Motion detection is inconsistent

Hula_Rock — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:24:34 GMT

@CG198 .....

What does this system become if you lose your Internet contection?

You guessed it right..... a PAPERWEIGHT!